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Hurricane Jeb

Florida's ex-governor criticizes his state's hurricane insurance plan.

Florida Governor Charlie Crist didn't appreciate our coverage of his plan to socialize his state's disaster insurance market and put taxpayers on the hook for billions. Now his populist lunge has won him a more formidable foe in the Sunshine State: his predecessor as Governor, Jeb Bush.

The highly popular Mr. Bush doesn't make a habit of violating Ronald Reagan's Eleventh Commandment ("Thou Shalt Not Criticize Fellow Republicans"), but he's making an exception here. BestWeek, a trade publication of insurance rating firm A.M. Best, quotes Mr. Bush criticizing states that are crafting disaster insurance plans "that are as bad as the natural disasters themselves." Which states? "My beloved state of Florida has taken steps along that path." Ouch.

In January, Mr. Crist enthusiastically signed into law a measure to reduce the cost of hurricane insurance by largely abandoning the insurance market in favor of a guarantee that, whatever happens, Florida taxpayers will cover the tab. And what a tab it will be. Citizens Property and Casualty Insurance Corporation, a state-owned insurance company, has more than $434 billion of exposure and only $2 billion of reserves to pay claims, according to state Representative Dennis Ross, one of the cooler heads who didn't prevail in the legislative debate.

Mr. Ross outlines the financial downside in the Journal of the James Madison Institute. "As a result of the 2004-2005 storm seasons, private insurance companies paid out $39 billion to rebuild Florida. Now, if we encounter another storm cycle reminiscent of 2004 and 2005, it is our consumers and taxpayers who are left to pay these claims," writes Mr. Ross. "The total debt of the State is $22 billion. This debt accumulated during the course of Florida's more than 100-year history as a state and could, literally, double overnight with one storm."

Will the state really be able to squeeze enough cash out of taxpayers and lenders when disaster strikes? We'll know soon enough. Florida International University's International Hurricane Research Center publishes a list of the U.S. areas most vulnerable to hurricanes and, no surprise, three of the top five are in Florida.
Rather than spreading the financial risk across the world-wide private insurance market, Mr. Crist's plan seeks to concentrate the risk within the state of Florida, triggering enormous costs at the moment when Floridians may be least able to pay. Says former Governor Bush, "When the government assumes the risk of these catastrophic events, they are putting at risk the livelihoods and quality of life of the taxpayers and citizens they serve."

That's a storm warning Mr. Crist would do well to heed.
If the insurance reserve is coming from Tax payers, arent they picking up the tab either way?
How much will the State collect in "insurance premiums" each year? If they are going to cover the insurance risk, they'll surely also charge their policy holders for assuming that risk. The real question then becomes what the potential downside exposure risk potentially can be in relation to the upside premiums expected?

Is the State of Florida running a non-profit insurance scheme, or simply a no premium, State pays all claims system.
is when they get whacked, they will ask for the Feds (ie: all the rest of us) to bail them out.

They've already tried through their Congress people to get a national risk pool developed. For obvious reasons, it didn't go anywhere.

They really have no other choice. The private insurers are pulling out of the market due to the very high risk. Hurricane Andrew caused 26.5 bil. in damage in 1992. There has been much development and population increase since. A similar storm this year could easily cost 40-50 bil.
I dropped one insurance company We had for 25 years, during Katrina I had roof damage, the estimate to replace it was $25,000 so they paid me 15,000 so I shelled out $10,000 out of pocket plus a $2500 deductible so I ended up getting about 50% Coverage, Had paid an average of 3500 a year in the past 13 and the last 12 years $5,000 to $7500 in premiums, so you tell me is it worth it to have hurricane coverage ? I say no, If I put away $7500 annually and already have I have a reserve already of $25,000+ saved which will cover a new roof, that's about the maximum damage my solid concrete and block house can have as damage, if I don't have any damage this year I will have $32,000 next year and so on to cover any damage. I do have liability and Fire in case of a total lose by s fire and I have flood insurance also.
Will people live in Florida if they have to pay market rates for hurricane insurance?

The US Gov underwrites Coastal hazards insurance in other parts of the USA I'm surprised they won't give this hand out to Floridians. I mean look at the farm bill hand outs are still in it seems.
Florida's a worthless dump anyway. The quicker it's gone the better.
pblee Wrote:Florida's a worthless dump anyway. The quicker it's gone the better.

LMAO....Then why is the traffic so bad?

my original insurance company pulled out, but I had it replaced within 1 week at actually a cheaper rate with the same coverage. Here is a shocker.....things are not always as bad as the press makes them out to be.



AK
gray Wrote:Will people live in Florida if they have to pay market rates for hurricane insurance?

The US Gov underwrites Coastal hazards insurance in other parts of the USA I'm surprised they won't give this hand out to Floridians. I mean look at the farm bill hand outs are still in it seems.

Yeah, they will still live in Florida. Watch Ocala surpass Miami's population.
REDNECK Wrote:
gray Wrote:Will people live in Florida if they have to pay market rates for hurricane insurance?

The US Gov underwrites Coastal hazards insurance in other parts of the USA I'm surprised they won't  give this hand out to Floridians. I mean  look at the farm bill hand outs are still in it seems.

Yeah, they will still live in Florida.  Watch Ocala surpass Miami's population.
I hope you are right so I can make a killing on all my building lots.
angelking Wrote:
pblee Wrote:Florida's a worthless dump anyway. The quicker it's gone the better.

LMAO....Then why is the traffic so bad?

my original insurance company pulled out, but I had it replaced within 1 week at actually a cheaper rate with the same coverage. Here is a shocker.....things are not always as bad as the press makes them out to be.



AK

I'm one of the few is hoping for global warming. All you Floridians can then move to Mississippi and Alabama. Now there's paradise.Icon_cheesygrin
I had lunch with a business associate who lives in Washington DC today. He told me about Alabama. That is all I want to say.. Sad

I asked him about the Murder rate being 3 times higher than Mexico City. He said "yep". Then he said, the south part of the city is rough. The north, where he lives is great. He said " the murder rate is high, if you wanna get murdered, its not hard to find, if you dont wanna get murdered, its not hard to avoid ".

I watched the hockey game with him (and some other canucks) in a steak house. We had dinner as well. Heck of a good guy.
He said " I have never watched much hockey", then he said " hell, you canucks tease me about Americans being violent".

If you havent watched hockey, you wont get it.
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