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Apr. 02, 2007
Most Cuban-Americans support changes in U.S. Cuba policies
By Vanessa Bauza
South Florida Sun-Sentinel

FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. - Lift travel restrictions to Cuba, re-establish diplomatic relations and create a national dialogue between exiles, dissidents and the Cuban government: These are the tools a majority of Cuban-Americans surveyed support in their quest for change on the island, according to a Florida International University poll scheduled for release Monday.

The survey reflects a trend toward political pragmatism and moderation as newer waves of Cuban migrants with strong ties to their homeland arrive in South Florida, said FIU researchers who conducted the poll last month of 1,000 Cuban-Americans in Miami-Dade County. The results have a margin of error of plus or minus 3.2 percent.

Cuban-Americans are "willing to try to precipitate that change by instituting new policies that they think will break the isolation," said Guillermo Grenier, a sociology professor at FIU who wrote the poll. "To isolate a country and then expect it to change according to your norms is counterintuitive and I think the people in the community reflect that view."

Though many Cuban-Americans celebrated Fidel Castro's debilitating surgery and handover of power in July to his brother Raul, their initial optimism has been tempered by a lack of political change on the island. Some 46 percent said they anticipated major changes in Cuba in the next five years - no change from FIU's last survey in 2004.

According to the poll results, 56 percent of those polled support the U.S. trade and travel embargo, down from 66 percent in March 2004. Some 65 percent favor establishing a national dialogue among Cuban exiles, dissidents and representatives of the Cuban government, a 10 point increase over the 2004 results, while 57 percent favored reestablishing diplomatic relations with Cuba.

The results are at odds with U.S. policy toward Cuba, which isolates the island politically and economically.

Sixty four percent of the current respondents favored U.S. policies that allowed Cuban-Americans to travel to the island each year, rather than the current limits of once every three years, and allowed a wide range of educational and cultural exchange trips for all U.S. citizens.

The Bush administration tightened travel rules in 2004 to stem the flow of dollars to the Cuban government and spur democratic change. However, many Cuban-Americans have complained that their families have borne the brunt of the regulations. With Democrats in control of Congress, proponents of easing travel restrictions have introduced bills in the House that would allow all Americans to travel and permit financing for food sales to Cuba.

Though many in the exile community have softened their views on the embargo, strict policies are still favored by Cuban-American legislators who help shape U.S. policies. Ana Carbonell, chief of staff for U.S. Rep. Lincoln Diaz-Balart, R-Miami, said the Cuban government should release all political prisoners, legalize political parties and schedule democratic elections before sanctions are eased.

"That's the very least that we can ask for," Carbonell said. She called the FIU poll a "propaganda tool used by those who want to ease sanctions and normalize relations with the regime."

Carlos Saladrigas, co-chairman of the Cuban Study Group, a Miami-based organization that supports more engagement with the island, said Cuban-American legislators and other community leaders are out of step with the majority.

"The public figures that have a voice in the Cuban-American community do not reflect the changing views of the community," Saladrigas said. "So the community can only express itself with polls like this and I think over time they will begin to express themselves at the ballot box."

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© 2007 South Florida Sun-Sentinel

Supercuban

Yeah, but whom did they poll, Cuban Americans ?, I doubt it.
Our own poll shows different, most of this polls conducted in Miami fail to ask where the person is from , Just because a person looks cuban doesn't mean he is cuban, I can go half a mile from my house and 9 out of 10 are either columbian venezuelan or nicaraguan, also having Carlos Saladrigas a left wing activist mentioned in this poll, gives me even more suspicions.

Bogey

Supercuban Wrote:Yeah, but whom did they poll, Cuban Americans ?, I doubt it.
Our own poll shows different, most of this polls conducted in Miami fail to ask where the person is from , Just because a person looks cuban doesn't mean he is cuban, I can go half a mile from my house and 9 out of 10 are either columbian venezuelan or nicaraguan, also having Carlos Saladrigas a left wing activist mentioned in this poll, gives me even more suspicions.

that must be a damn good looking neighborhood. Whereabouts in Miami do you live? I might have to consider it.
Something happens to those girls when they reach Miami Bogey. They discover McDonalds and eat breakfast at Don Pan. Tongue

Supercuban

Bogey Wrote:
Supercuban Wrote:Yeah, but whom did they poll, Cuban Americans ?, I doubt it.
Our own poll shows different, most of this polls conducted in Miami fail to ask where the person is from , Just because a person looks cuban doesn't mean he is cuban, I can go half a mile from my house and 9 out of 10 are either columbian venezuelan or nicaraguan, also having Carlos Saladrigas a left wing activist mentioned in this poll, gives me even more suspicions.

that must be a damn good looking neighborhood. Whereabouts in Miami do you live? I might have to consider it.

Look up City Of Doral, Miami Dade County.
If you want a house I have 2 for sale at 1.3 Million.
(perhaps the operative phrase is "majority of those REGISTERED TO VOTE oppose it" & in political arena those are the ones who count)

A poll released on Monday by the Florida International University shows that in Miami-Dade county, 55.2% of Cuban-Americans favor "unrestricted" travel to Cuba, while the majority of those registered to vote oppose it, the Miami Herald reported. Support for the embargo is at its lowest since FIU began the poll in 1991.

62% of those polled said that they support selling food to the island and 51.3% said that they favor re-establishing diplomatic ties with Cuba. The Miami Herald reported that two out of every three Cubans-Americans also favor establishing a national dialogue between the Cuban government, dissidents and exiles. In 1991, slightly fewer than half favored such a dialogue.

The FIU poll is unique because it has been asking the same questions during the past decade in order to track changes in opinion over time.
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Bogey

Supercuban Wrote:
Bogey Wrote:
Supercuban Wrote:Yeah, but whom did they poll, Cuban Americans ?, I doubt it.
Our own poll shows different, most of this polls conducted in Miami fail to ask where the person is from , Just because a person looks cuban doesn't mean he is cuban, I can go half a mile from my house and 9 out of 10 are either columbian venezuelan or nicaraguan, also having Carlos Saladrigas a left wing activist mentioned in this poll, gives me even more suspicions.

that must be a damn good looking neighborhood. Whereabouts in Miami do you live? I might have to consider it.

Look up City Of Doral, Miami Dade County.
If you want a house I have 2 for sale at 1.3 Million.

tempting, but at 1.3 million I could live like a Lord King God in Colombia, Venezuela and Brazil whenever I want and whereever I want at my leisure.

which means the city of Doral and Miami Dade County would merely fade away intoa meaningless small memory.

Supercuban

Bogey Wrote:
Supercuban Wrote:
Bogey Wrote:
Supercuban Wrote:Yeah, but whom did they poll, Cuban Americans ?, I doubt it.
Our own poll shows different, most of this polls conducted in Miami fail to ask where the person is from , Just because a person looks cuban doesn't mean he is cuban, I can go half a mile from my house and 9 out of 10 are either columbian venezuelan or nicaraguan, also having Carlos Saladrigas a left wing activist mentioned in this poll, gives me even more suspicions.

that must be a damn good looking neighborhood. Whereabouts in Miami do you live? I might have to consider it.

Look up City Of Doral, Miami Dade County.
If you want a house I have 2 for sale at 1.3 Million.

tempting, but at 1.3 million I could live like a Lord King God in Colombia, Venezuela and Brazil whenever I want and whereever I want at my leisure.

which means the city of Doral and Miami Dade County would merely fade away intoa meaningless small memory.

So why don't you Fkg go, we don't need no more garbage here.
If you need a plane ticket let me know.LOL

Bogey

Supercuban Wrote:
Bogey Wrote:
Supercuban Wrote:
Bogey Wrote:
Supercuban Wrote:Yeah, but whom did they poll, Cuban Americans ?, I doubt it.
Our own poll shows different, most of this polls conducted in Miami fail to ask where the person is from , Just because a person looks cuban doesn't mean he is cuban, I can go half a mile from my house and 9 out of 10 are either columbian venezuelan or nicaraguan, also having Carlos Saladrigas a left wing activist mentioned in this poll, gives me even more suspicions.

that must be a damn good looking neighborhood. Whereabouts in Miami do you live? I might have to consider it.

Look up City Of Doral, Miami Dade County.
If you want a house I have 2 for sale at 1.3 Million.

tempting, but at 1.3 million I could live like a Lord King God in Colombia, Venezuela and Brazil whenever I want and whereever I want at my leisure.

which means the city of Doral and Miami Dade County would merely fade away intoa meaningless small memory.

So why don't you Fkg go, we don't need no more garbage here.
If you need a plane ticket let me know.LOL

garbage? as compared to whom - you por ejemplo Diciembrito?

but if the tickets are gratis, I´ll take them  Action_smiley_060

if you had a half a brain, your comeback would be if the places I am talking about are so attractive, why are the moneyed classes from there settling down in Doral?

but asking for a half a brain is too much though I have a perfectly prepared response for that particular comeback Action_smiley_035
Bogey, let me help you out here.

The Doral Area is a very up and coming part of Miami. The Doral Country Club is my favorite Spa place. Beautiful golf course too. The wealthy South Americans are settlling there. It is an area being populated by the Venezuelans because it is all new construction. It's either that or Homestead (eeekkkkkk). I had a flower shop there in the 1980's where it was mostly industrial. Now, there are beautiful homes going up there which are a bit unaffordable to the common Americano.

The area where I live in, was established in the 1980's by the Colombians. Kendall and West Kendall is a mix of Americans, and well to do Latinos.

There is also a bit of a old neighborhood which is fast becoming the place to be if you have money. It used to be all farmers and horse country. It is called "The Redlands". I have a 2 1/2 acre lot there which (hopefully soon), I am going to start building on. It is all Cuban-Americans kids like me.

Affordable placed to live, Hialeah, Homestead, Westchester, City of Miami. Forget Pinecrest, Coral Gables, South Miami and Coconut Grove.

If you want to see pretty women, just go to the malls where the girls hang out. Sit there with a box of popcorn, and just call them over to you. I am sure they will flock. I mean with your charm, how could any girl resist.

Bogey

yes Mercy, you´re probably correct, after all look at how easy it was for Manolo of Tony Montana fame. He´d just stick out his long and largue Cuban tongue  Icon_cheesygrin

but if things go well I will be in Cali or Caracas at the end of the year, at least for the winter.

Be nice to Arnaldito and send him to visit me. I promise to take care of him and ensure his stay is memorable  Smile

p.s. interestingly enough the physical attributes that work for me in Latin America, don´t work for me among Americanized Latinas who seek out ones of their own, more often than not. Here I am "exotic", and it´s always better that way, neh? It also helps to be almost 6 foot in a land of short people.
I am far from Americanized Bogey. Crea'melo mijito.

I don't do the gringa look very well. I am a low maintenance Cubanita who looks high maintenance. Cheeky_smiley_022

Bogey

by the way, going back to the debate, perhaps it was a different thead, with Flake and the "marxists" who were supposedly roundly defeated by Diciembre and "frens".

I loved the exilio who was bitching that even if we allow travel, Cuba will still restrict some, especially HIM; from coming. He found that completely unfair and unjustifiable.

This one again shows how these Fkg people are living in Fkg dreamland, a land of "reality" that is only "real" among themselves, and not anywhere in the REAL WORLD.

every country and every govt (democratic OR authoritarian)  has a "persona non grata" list, and these days, especially after 9/11, I suspect the US list is even longer than Cuba´s.

why doesn´t "Jose" or whatever his Fkg name was, spend a couple of years constantly bashing the US govt publicly and we´ll see if his visa is approved Action_smiley_060

what a Fkg bunch of Fkg dumbasses.

why can´t these stupid people just die already?

oh yes Mercy, you are unfortunately so correct about McDonalds, etc etc

such a damn shame.

the biggest single difference is not the lack of hot women, there are hot women everywhere, especially in the US (where you have the likes of Beyoncee running around, one of the hottest women on the planet)

but the different is what you see on the street, how many 7´s and 8´s.

the streets of some cities in Latin America are FULL of 7´s and 8´s. These girls do not get an attitude, and they do not get fat, because there is competition, not only for the men, but among themselves (you know how catty women are). Therefore these girls do not get an ATTITUDE.

in the US, where the streets are full of 4´s 5´s and 6´s, a 7 and 8 is in short supply and in extremely high demand, ergo they develop an "attitude". The 9´s and 10´s in both places are already presumidas and Fkg spoiled rotten  Smile

that is about as close as I can come to explaining the "difference". (oh yeah, and to add, that in gringolandia even 5´s and 6´s have an attitude, about what no one can really figure out, but they still get fucked and men put up with their s*&t because men get desperate)
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